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A Discussion Forum hosted by the UK Policy Governance Association and the CRSA Forum

Supported by Mazars LLP 

1 November 2016, 09:30 – 19:00

Cost: £125 + VAT

Venue:  Mazars LLP, Tower Bridge House St Katharine’s Way London E1W 1DD

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Speaker Bios
Richard Baker, Anthony CareyPaul MoxeyCaroline OliverSusan RogersKatarina Sikavica (co-author Amy Hillman), Howard ShawRichard Tudway

A one-day seminar for anyone with an interest in better governance and better organisations.

The concept of ownership should be a foundation of governance but what once seemed like solid ground is now shifting.  As we reflect on the governance of organisations over the last 10 years some fundamental questions arise. The UK Policy Governance Association and the CRSA Forum are hosting a series of seminars to address these questions, satisfactory answers to which are vital to society and businesses and organizations trying to get things done. In this first seminar on foundational topics, we will consider the question:

“Ownership: From whom does the organisation take its authority and to whom does it owe accountability?”

Recent cases of organisational mis-behaviour involving excessive risk taking, unethical practices, false accounting, spiralling executive remuneration, tax avoidance, environmental damage and unfair treatment of employees and their pension rights suggest that large corporations are effectively ownerless and unaccountable.  Ownership is an equally important issue in other sectors. With the boards of many charities being accountable to no one other than the law, with the range of available corporate vehicles continuing to expand and with public services being increasingly delivered through a mesh of non-profit and for-profit organisations, it is hard to know who is accountable for what let alone to determine if they are being well governed.

Ownership as a foundation seems as clear and as firm as mud which means that governance, and organisations themselves, are indeed shaking. Come and join this event and be part of the rebuilding process.

The programme

9.30        Registration

10.00      WELCOME & INTRODUCTION:  Prof. Paul Moxey, Chairman of the CRSA Forum and Visiting Professor of Corporate Governance at London South Bank University.

10.20      THE MEANING OF OWNERSHIP: Katarina Sikavica, Head of Customer Success at Sherpany, Zurich and Affiliated Researcher, Department of Business Administration Chair of Organization and Management, University of Zurich.

The concept of “organisational ownership” means different things to different people. The session will discuss the various dimensions of the organisational ownership such as legal ownership, financial ownership, and psychological ownership. We will reflect on how each of these carries different behavioural expectations when it comes to organisational owners and how behaviour by organisational owners is judged differently depending on whether we perceive them as legal, financial or psychological owners.

We will also consider ownership heterogeneity within the publicly listed firm and see how different owners exist that display different investment horizons, preferences and behaviours vis-à-vis the firm.

11.00     DISCUSSION

11.20     COFFEE BREAK

11:40     WHAT IS AN ORGANISATION? : Richard Tudway, Author of The Looming Corporate Calamity.

Richard will address how and why organisations like limited liability companies came to be treated in law as “persons”, the implications of this and how those implications influence the culture and behaviour of companies today when compared with other types of legal entity such as partnerships and other associative undertakings.  What does it mean in practice to say that directors are obliged to act “in the best interests of the corporation”?Given these insights, what can be done to improve the effectiveness of board governance?

OWNERSHIP – FIT FOR THE FUTURE? : Dick Baker, Director Caerus Consulting.

Dick will explore ‘ownership’ and shareholder primacy and the implications for the future of the company. That shareholders are the owners seems for many an established fact which has led to a short-term view that it seems is not serving organisations or society at large. As the shareholder value mantra is being questioned is it time to look at the ideas of ownership and with it the corporate form itself? As new ways of structuring enterprises emerge how do we encourage greater consideration of purpose, ownership and accountability?

12.30      PANEL DISCUSSION: with Richard Tudway, Dick Baker and Anthony Carey, Head of Board Practice Mazars LLP

13.00      LUNCH

2.00        GREAT IDEAS: GOVERNANCE ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSIONS: Susan Rogers, President – Rogers Leadership Consulting.

In this facilitated discussion seminar participants will consider the key issues arising from the morning sessions.

3:00        TEA BREAK

3:20        DISTINGUISHING GOVERNANCE: Caroline Oliver, Chair of the UK Policy Governance Association.

This session will make the case for distinguishing governance as a unique discipline and suggest that governance is best understood as “ownership one step down, not management one step up”.  Caroline will also look at the location of the position of the board from an ethical and practical perspective and examine the meaning of accountability.  Finally she will question whether the future of governance lies in taking a more systematic approach than we typically do today.

3:50        STABILISING THE FOUNDATION OF GOVERNANCE: Panel discussion with all the presenters

4:30        SUMMING UP AND FUTURE SEMINARS: Caroline Oliver and Paul Moxey

4.45        A NEW ISO STANDARD IN ORGANISATIONAL GOVERNANCE: Howard Shaw, Director   –   Head of Anti-Corruption & Whistleblowing Services, Mazars LLP

5.00      Seminar closes – to be followed by networking and drinks reception

Nearest underground station Tower Hill. Mazars is close to the junction of Tower Bridge Road and E Smithfield

UKPGA and CRSA Forum


UKPGA www.policygovernanceassociation.org The UK Policy Governance® Association (UKPGA) was originally established as the UK Policy Governance Group in October 2005, and subsequently incorporated as a not-for-profit company limited by guarantee in April 2006. The association is principally concerned with promoting owner-accountable, ethical and effective governance using the Policy Governance® system originally developed by Dr. John Carver.

The UKPGA is governed by a board comprising entirely of ‘non-executive’ directors – Caroline Oliver (Chair), Richard Baker, John Bruce, Vijay Mistri, Paul Moxey, Susan Rogers and Ray Tooley. The UKPGA has strong links with the International Policy Governance Association (IPGA). Caroline Oliver is a founding member, former Chair and current CEO of the IPGA

Policy Governance® is an internationally registered service mark of John Carver. Registration is only to ensure accurate description of the model rather than for financial gain. The model is available free to all with no royalties or license fees for its use. The authoritative website for Policy Governance is www.carvergovernance.com.


CRSA Forum www.crsaforum.com

The CRSA Forum is an independent group formed by enthusiastic Governance and risk practitioners who value the ability to share experiences and learn lessons from each other.   Originally set up in the early 1990s to develop CRSA (Control and Risk Self Assessment) workshop techniques, it has evolved over the years to meet the challenges of corporate governance and risk management. CRSA is particularly relevant to the human aspects of governance and risk and can be a key tool for understanding and assessing culture and behaviour in organisations.

The Forum benefits from a wide network of practitioners and experts who offer their time and knowledge freely so that collectively we can all better manage risk (including strategic financial, environmental and operational risks) in our organisations.   Members are drawn from a wide range of organisations, from investment banking and insurance to public and not for profit enterprises.  Members share their successes, experiences, concerns and frustrations in a positive enabling environment and also help each other outside of the more formal meeting structure such as assisting less experienced members with risk meetings in their organisation. In keeping with the values of the group, membership is open to all practitioners irrespective of experience or qualifications.

SEE POLICY GOVERNANCE®1 IN ACTION – 10 January, 2013, York, UK November 26, 2012

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Come and see how Policy Governance boards tackle  a whole range of common issues raised by participants.   UKGA members and others familiar with this advanced governance system will start the ball rolling and invite you to join in as you feel moved.    See here for the brochure and registration details.  [ see attachment “Policy Governance in Practice”].Policy Governance in Practice Jan 2013


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UKPGA Chair, Caroline Oliver and board member, Richard Baker are helping to develop a new British Standard on effective governance.  Public consultation on BSI 13500 finishes at the end of November 2012 and the results are due to be published Summer 2013.  This code of practice aims to provide a framework for effective governance that encompasses system, control, direction and accountability and to be applicable to all types of organization.  For more information see:  http://drafts.bsigroup.com/Home/Details/46874


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Board Leadership is a bi-monthly newsletter from the Wiley Publishing Group of which master Policy Governance teachers John and Miriam Carver are Executive Coeditors.   To sign up for free monthly  E-Alerts go to www.boardleadershipnewsletter.com

INTERNATIONAL POLICY GOVERNANCE ASSOCIATION -10th Annual Conference, Toronto, Canada November 26, 2012

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The International Policy Governance Association’s 10th Annual Conference “Speaking the Language of Board Leadership” along with the first Annual International Young Governors’ Summit are being held in Toronto, Canada from 20-22 June 2013.   For more information see www.policygovernanceassociation.org

British Standards Institute – New Governance Standard Press Release March 19, 2012

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A press release regarding the new governance standard being developed by the British Standards Institute (BSI) can be found here: http://www.bsigroup.com/en/about-bsi/News-Room/BSI-News-Content/General/BSI-to-launch-new-governance-standard/ Caroline Oliver, UKPGA Chair and a member of the drafting sub-group, says “This is challenging work that throws our lack of a common theory of governance into sharp relief. However I do believe that the result is likely to be another step in the right direction in terms of achieving more board accountability for the right things.” UKPGA board members John Bruce and Richard Baker are also members of the main group working on the standard.

Governance Innovations December 15, 2011

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UKPGA is participating as a member of the International Steering Group on ‘governance innovations’ for the Governance Report of the Hertie School of Governance in Berlin.

UKPGA Joins British Standards Institute Group October 5, 2011

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UKPGA has been invited to join a group organized by the British Standards Institute (BSI) to help develop a standard regarding the principles of governance, ie, how organizations should be run and the responsibilities they have to their stakeholders and society.

Recent Riots August 30, 2011

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The recent riots have lead many people to further question what “Big Society” really means. Does it, as many fear, mean creating a public service vacuum and hoping for the best? Public services are, by definition, currently owned by all of us. We should not abandon them without being clear that we can do without them. We should not delegate them without being clear that we remain accountable for whatever we delegate. We should not keep them unless we can clearly justify doing so as being in all our best interests. These are the big picture public service governance issues. Where is the debate that addresses them?

Caroline Oliver, Chair, UKPGA


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As new forms of organisation develop around the UK in response to the availability of new legal forms and the government’s “Big Society” drive, the need for clarity on ownership among non-profit and public organisations has never been greater.

UKPGA Chair, Caroline Oliver’s article, “Who Owns You”, is the very first chapter in a new forty-three chapter book “YOU and Your Nonprofit: Practical Advice and Tips from the CharityChannel Professional Community” Edited by Norman Olshansky and Linda Lysakowski, ACFRE.

A version of this article is also available at http://www.goodtogoven.com.